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maryann eightdtrs -- USDA Zone 5
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Oct-27-02, 02:32 PM (EST)
 
"clematis"
 
   Hi there, Diane,
I have several "wimpy" clematis that are a real joke. They are 4-5 yrs old, planted with the very same exposure and light as those folks in my neighborhood have ones that flourish. Some folks prune theirs down to the ground in the fall, some don't. They both seem to have equal success. Do you have any ideas or hints? Thanks
maryann


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Diane Franklin -- USDA Zone 5
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Oct-27-02, 11:08 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: clematis"
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   Hi Maryann,
Clematis by that age should be performing better. How is the soil? Is it deep and loamy and have you had a soil test performed on it? I imagine you have heard the directions for clematis, "Sunny head, shady feet'" I like to plant another perennial near the root zone to supply the shade necessary for clematis's roots.

Another question to ask is where did you get your clematis? Was is from a reputable source or an inexpensive one that may not have sold you what you thought you were getting.

No matter what though, now you have them and I'm sure you would like to see them healthier. I would first start with a soil test. You can get a very reasonable priced test from your county extension office found in the phone book.

Hope this helps, Bye, Diane


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suzinnia -- USDA Zone 4
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Feb-27-03, 12:43 PM (EST)
 
2. "RE: clematis"
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   wondering what some of your favorites are for shading the feet of clematis...I imagine they'd need to be ones that "leaf out" pretty early so that they provide shade early on.
I've heard that planting clematis deep will help them survive if ever they succumb to clematis wilt. How deep is deep enough. Also to what depth does the soil need to be ammended for good drainage?I have fairly crappy clayish soil. How about feeding? what and when. By now can you guess that my clematis have failed to thrive too? I also confess to not watering as much as I should. I have every intention of "reforming"
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Diane Franklin -- USDA Zone 5
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Mar-09-03, 11:51 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: clematis"
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   Hi,
Clematis should be relativly easy to grow unless you have soil that is so hard the roots don't have room to establish well. Clay soil not only makes it hard for the roots to spread out but it also keeps the roots from taking up water and getting enough air.

You need to ammend your soil. Carefully dig out the clematis and put it aside in a bucket while you fix 'its' home. Don't let the roots dry out. Add compost and sphagnum peat to a much larger area than just the planting hole. Dig out the soil and add the ammedments to the soil you dug out. 8 to 10 inches down should be more than sufficent and make the area nice and wide. Mix well and then add some back into the dug out area. Water, plant your clematis back into its nice new home and finish adding the soil back. Water well.

You can use all kinds of perennials to shade the roots. They should be well behaved, not invasive or too agressive with their roots. They don't have to be extremely early in leafing out because it is usually cooler in the spring and the clematis shouldn't have many opportunities to over heat. You could try Heuchera, Lady's Mantle, Lamiastrum, Pulmonaria, to name just a few. Their roots system shouldn't be a problem for your clematis.

I have never experience clematis wilt or even familar with it so I don't have much to say about that, sorry. I have never needed to feed my clematis but I do keep the soil mulched in my perennial beds which over the years replenishes the soil. It is a continual process.

Happy Gardening,
Diane


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